Round 12 Discussion

[Penn Badgley]

"Another challenge I can't compete in that I would win :-P"

Who says this kind of stuff!!!!! Lol at Amy. I love her, but she needs to learn when not to speak sometimes. 
Say this kind of stuff in your DR. Not in the public forum where it makes you appear arrogant. That will just put a target on you. 

[Melanie Brown]

Or make you appear that much more repugnant so people will want you in the final 2 with them....

Not saying Amy has THAT much game, but you know what I mean.

[Chris Evans]

Hilarie is the only person to have never been evicted this season (so far)

If she doesn't make final 2, everyone in the game got evicted at some point lol

[Channing Tatum]

I agree so much with everything written above

[Adam Levine]

I agree with Channing and myself.

[Chris Evans]

YESSSS
Hilarie needed F4 HOH opposed to F4 POV. She needs to throw POV now? Although obviously whomever holds the veto gets to make a f2 deal with the person they keep, whether it's legit or not

[Penn Badgley]

ajmong
how safe do you feel?
msamle
like 65%-70%
ajmong
gotcha
ajmong
if you go f3 with tom/hil, who would you take to f2 if you win final hoh?
msamle
hilsy?
msamle
I dunno
msamle
she was my F2 >.<


Amy could win this game and she doesn't even realize it. It should be pretty obvious Hilarie threw PoV, which, should tell Amy that Hilarie is aligned with everyone. Thus, Amy needs to realize that her best bet is to promise Tom F2 so that he keeps her, then actually take him, bc she has the best chance to beat him. This is why Hilarie is gon win!

[Penn Badgley]

ajmong
leaning any way in particular?
bigbrothers_reckoning
well i was 100% gonna evict Amy
bigbrothers_reckoning
but Brad could be the real jury threat
ajmong
gotcha
ajmong
out of the other 3, who do you feel would take you to the end if they win final hoh?
bigbrothers_reckoning
oh that doesn't matter cause I'm winning it
bigbrothers_reckoning
:-P
ajmong
oh lol
bigbrothers_reckoning
ummm
bigbrothers_reckoning
me and Hil have a F2
bigbrothers_reckoning
and i do think she would take me
bigbrothers_reckoning
i could see Brad taking me
bigbrothers_reckoning
but I could see Amy taking Hil


I think Tom's best bet is to eliminate Amy. 1) Because Amy is loyal to Hilarie. 2) Because I think Tom's best chance to win is against Brad (though I think Brad would win it, idk). However, Tom is wrong in thinking Brad would take him to final 2. 

At this point, if any of them take Hilarie to final 2, they are either delusional, or don't want to win. Lol.

[Channing Tatum]

Honestly I think Toms best bet is to go against Amy in the end. Can you just imagine the answers she will give at the final questioning? I honestly don't see how Amy could beat anyone. She never really made any moves in the game, never made real alliances, played extremely personally and not strategic and several of her public comments are arrogant and several of her goodbye messages were rude
A Tom/Amy finale gives Tom the advantage of 'both their games really started at the jury phase' cause before they each spent a long stretch in the ashes for the first half. And In the 2nd half Tom has been more capable in comps and seems to have earned some respect from the other players that he didn't have before seeing as most consider Tom a waste when they got rid of him but view him as a huge threat now (almost Caramoan Brenda-esque). Plus Tom knows how to make a strong case and argue his strategy of floating the first half of the game. So Tom should totally take Amy to final 2

[Penn Badgley]

It's not that I think Amy has a bad game. She just doens't know which parts of her game to own. Like, she's a challenge contender. Has a few wins up her sleeves. And she's definitely capable of being strategic. She just lets personal connections cloud both of those strengths. But yeah, I honestly don't think that Amy would be as capable of convincing a jury. As you said, her public comments and goodbyes are sometimes very wtf. However, with that said, the reason I think Tom should evict Amy is because I feel like Tom will stick to his f2 with Hilarie, and so would Amy. Which means, best case for Tom to get to the final 2 is probably if he eliminates Amy. But I could be wrong. Maybe he'd wise up (as would Amy), and they'd both realize that their best chances are probably against one another. I think Badger's likability (and the fact that he didn't really spend any time in the Ashes, having come straight back and into HoH power) makes him a little more of a contender than Amy/Tom.

The think that bugs me most about Tom is that, yes, he's done very well since his return. But where was that in the beginning? I mean, even though he went to the Ashes, we still saw him kinda be mediocre there as well. If Hilarie doesn't win, she will join the ranks of Aaron, Miranda, and Johnny as players who I truly think were robbed by not winning. Even though Aaron wasn't a f2, I think that he was the clear favorite of that season, despite being up against Sarah, who was also a favorite. But anyways... yeah.

Best chance of winning: Hilarie, Badger, Tom, Amy
Best case for winning: Hilarie, Amy/Badger/Tom (I truly think they are all pretty even in the "deserving" category)
Rooting for: Hilarie, Amy/Badger/Tom (lol, I can't really decide, and it will depend if any of them are smart enough not to take Hilarie =/)

[Chris Evans]

I seriously hope Tom does not win this for the game's sake....

Hilarie and Badger would be great winners. In that order but both are acceptable.

Amy